Question:
not potty trained at daycare?
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2009-01-09 20:23:33 UTC
one of the kids i watch is being kicked out of his daycare center because he is not toilet trained. he is a month away from 4 and they kept him in the toddler room as long as possible, but since he will be 4 soon he will have to be put in the preschool room. and the teacher in the preschool room won't change diapers.

do any day cares take 4 year olds in diapers? no, they won't potty train them! they don't seem to see this point.
Eleven answers:
anonymous
2009-01-10 11:24:44 UTC
well first off they really do need to potty train him. kids don't learn that on there own, they need to be showed and they need to be praised and rewarded for it.



second of all, yes you can find daycares that will take 4 year olds who are still in diapers. i work at one. we have a 3 and 4 year old room and in the morning they have preschool and in the evening its daycare. and we have a couple of kids in diapers.





plus the daycare should also be working on potty training.
Crabaddict
2009-01-10 00:03:48 UTC
I'm assuming this 4 year old is at daycare most of the day (regular 8 hour work-day?). Most children need to be encouraged and taught how to do something befor ethey do it. If this daycare has him for most of his waking hours, then it's not just the parents' fault he isn't toilet-trained. It's a little hard to convince a 4 year old that he needs to use the potty all the time when for most of the day he's allowed to just go in his pants. Sounds like a crappy daycare, if they won't spend any time teaching basic skills like this. I wouldn't keep *any* of my kids in a daycare that refused to help potty train a young child, as this will just happen again with the younger two. What do they do, just give them some food and let them run rampant all day? Do they spend anytime with social development? I'd be seriously wondering.
honey
2009-01-09 20:57:59 UTC
It sounds like you really like this child. I am sorry he will be kicked out, but at 4 if he doesnt have any issues he should really be potty trained. You said they never potty trained him so I assume that is his parents, now hopefully they will do thier job and potty train him. They are being lazy and i have know idea why a parent would want their 4 year old to be in diapers. In a year he will go to kindergarden...or should and if he was allowed in he would be made fun of. I dont blame the teacher for not changing his diaper, he is to old. At this age if they just put him in underware and explained potty training to him he would catch on quickly...they are idiots...sorry. and will have to find someone who will change a 4 year old's diapers which wont be easy, especially in a day care or preschool setting. You sound very sweet but unless you can persuade his parents to potty train there is nothing you can do.
anonymous
2009-01-10 09:09:07 UTC
The parents have enabled this behavior by keeping him in pull ups. I don't know of any day cares that take 4 year olds in diapers. My youngest was almost 4 when she was potty trained but I had a friend caring for her, and I didn't succumb to the stupidity of pull ups, she was still in diapers while being potty trained and did not get out of diapers until she was fully potty trained. The only thing pull ups are good for is removing money from one's wallet. If this child's parents are too lazy to help him with potty training then they need to keep him out of day care/pre school and elementary school and care for the child themselves. THEY are enabling his behavior so they should be suffering the consequences. As for the other children? Why should they suffer because their parents have no common sense?
anonymous
2009-01-09 21:15:43 UTC
I have lived in 2 different states in the past 6 years. BOTH states clearly specified to me that my child had to be potty trained by the age of 3 or they could not stay in day care.



My daughter just started day care (she turned 3 a couple of weeks ago). They made me sign a paper saying she was potty trained.



I think you will be hard pressed to find a center that will allow a 4 year old unless you go to a private in home day care. The state has a mandate in many areas and I fear that 3 is the age limit when the state is involved.
anonymous
2009-01-09 20:34:27 UTC
you will have to find someone with an at home day care and someone willing to change a 4year olds diapers. at a daycaare the 4 year olds room isnt set up for diaper changing and it is a sanitary issue for good reason. by four years a child should be potty trained and its the parents responsibility not the daycares, its part of being a mom. most daycares need them potty trained by three if they want to be with other 3 year olds
poprocks_and_coke
2009-01-09 20:37:15 UTC
A daycare center probably won't take an almost 4 year old who isn't potty trained. A home daycare would though and it may be a better choice to help potty train the child.
MikaB
2009-01-09 21:05:14 UTC
Then they need to stay home and take care of their own kid because I have no idea who would want to change a kid that has bathroom business that smells like an adult. If they want to teach him, tell the daycare to keep that diaper on him and when he gets tired of the urnine and poop on his butt, he will want to use the bathroom. I wouldn't change him! I am surprised the day care allowed this for this long. Many tell you after 2.5 they will not change your child.
anonymous
2009-01-09 20:31:40 UTC
really? well he could of been changed ( his nappy) in the toddler room when needed. some kids are a bit slower learning. kicking him out would hurt his self esteem. imagine the poor kid explaining why he cant go any longer. they didnt consider the childs needs and didnt work on a plan to get him potty trained.



they took the easy way out because the centre was lazy also
Da Bomb
2009-01-09 21:04:51 UTC
My (very smart) son had this problem with a 4 yr. old when he worked at a daycare facility. When confronted with a very smelly 4 Yr. old, he took him to the bathroom & asked the child what his mother did when he was at home. He said, "she took off my pants." Son said, "So - do it." The kid did, & then what? "She rinses the pants off in the toilet".Son said, "So do it". He eventually had the kid do it all in steps, & he (my son) never had to touch the dirty clothes! A 4 Yr. old of normal intelligence has just learned to work the system! Good luck!
Nina
2009-01-09 20:47:41 UTC
he needs to be potty trained. he is four years old. kids dont learn unless you teach them.


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